I just read the cover article in the April 13 edition of the Forbes magazine about the Wildrose Kennel in Miss. This is a million dollar/year business!! The training concepts look interesting, the breeding calendar looks scary. The article talks about the dogs being from English field lines. Does anyone know this kennel?

Good example why British/American is not the correct terminology. They call their Field dogs British

I was told that they use shock collars for training

This is supposed to be unusual? Most field trainers use ecollars, which are humane if properly employed. How else can you give a correction in a timely manner to a dog that is working 200 yards away from you?

Nothing is wrong with using an ecollar as long as the person is trained to do so.

And in regards to him calling his dogs British, that's true too. He's buying lines from the UK that are purely hunting labs. So there.

Even though, some of their dogs are from the UK, they are not British Type as know for the general public and breeders in the US

Then maybe the common usage of "British" is not only common, but incorrect.

They are british dogs, he's buying them in Brittain. I find less problems with that then the stupid nomenclature that says if the dog can be shown and is blocky, it's English and if it's lean and fieldy, it's American.

That's why I prefer show and field terms. Because unless you are importing your show dog, most likely it's ancestors in the last 3-5 generations are AMERICAN BRED labs.

He's importing British hunting dogs.

I have heard conflicting reports as to whether or not they are doing clearances on their dogs. I also thought I should get out of conformation and get involved with field training, lol! They do know how to market what they are doing.

Below is a quote from a March 28 posting - similiar thread re: Forbes Mag (must be a March issue?)

When I saw this thread I remembered this posting in particular! I thought this was a very good post so I am quoting it. When I checked their website at the time they do not do all clearances....

Boring ....
this is an old news re: Forbes guy....
They don't do all tests...no Optigen.....
some of their small dogs are 48# seems very underweight but that's how they keep field dogs in general very skinny ....
... good for him if he can make a million dollars a year....a month... whatever... not my kind of dogs....