Is it possible to get chocolate puppies, or an all chocolate litter from a black/yellow bitch? She does not have chocolate in her pedigree.Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

Yes, it is possible to get an all chocolate litter from a black and a yellow. BUT it is not possible to get even one chocolate from a breeding that both parents do not carry chocolate. So if you are seeing chocolates in a litter, both parents carry chocolate. Just because you don't SEE any chocolate in her pedigree does not mean it is not there.

Well put. Both parents MUST carry the chocolate gene. Byc or Bc x Yc. It is THE only way possible.

Even if you have NO chocolates in the yellow's pedigree - there has to be one relative who carries the chocolate gene.

Easy peasy

I was lucky enough to have one of those hidden chocolates. My girl Nell, chocolate, both parents black and the pedigree looks all black and yellow. But over the years, she, her kids, her grandkids have given me the nicest chocolate line I could hope for. One yellow in 4 generations has ever shown up. I do breed chocolate to chocolate all the time. No fear there. Always great darks and nice pigment. Just know what you are breeding and who you are breeding to. Study the pedigrees. Chocolates are a great challenge. My LOVE.

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Thank you!

And remember, the way the color chart works, you have a 25% chance of getting one of those combinations. It's entirely possibly that the way the genetic dice was thrown, the 25% chance showed up chocolate in EACH pup. You are never guaranteed an even split.

Question on Yellow's carrying Chocolates --- Is that even a smart combo?

By looking at a yellow who cares chocolate you can tell through their pigmentation and the yellowish eyes

Does the standard not state BLACK pigmentation ?

I think you are confusing yellow carrying chocolate with dudleys.

Any nice yellow out there can be secretly carrying chocolate as easily as a black can.

What are "dudleys"

The yellow's whom I have seen that carry chocolate all seem to be of the darker shade of yellow. Anyone else notice this?

Michelle

I have noticed yellows carrying choco are a light cream colour

I agree, I have seen lighter and darker yellows that carry chocolate. And light eyes can come from a black dog. And a well known one, older passed it on. A fact. There are alot of beliefs that go around that are so wrong. A black to a chocolate is not going to improve eye, coat, pigment color. Gees. Its what each dog carrys, the genes. Know Sharon can really educate us on this. And help some to understand better. Thats why we keep saying, do your homework, dig into those pedigrees. Surprises happen !

It really is hit or miss I think.

Some of their offspring do show it for sure.