penn hip results 48-62.

good? bad? ugly?

TIA

The PennHip website has some good information you might want to check out. In the meantime this SAMPLE REPORT might help you see what the values mean in terms of good/bad/ugly.

Pennhip is just a tool used in making breeding decsions, not the be all and end all
scores are more useful if you have history behind the dog(others pennhiped) but sometimes you have to start scratch
we have a young bitch who has many OFA excellents behind her(no pennhips) , her pennhip is .22 .26 a very good score
(OFA good elbows clear). what will be the hard part is trying to keep that score when breeding,, LeeAnne

Did you also do OFA? and if you did - what was her rating?

.62 on PennHip is not that good, but if she is what you want to breed, you might try OFA as well. How are her elbows?

You should have gotten a statement from PennHIP about where a DI of .62 ranks among Labs: I estimate the bottom 10%. The percentage rating is always based on the worst hip.

Although PennHIP ratings cannot be compared to OFA, I'm betting that a DI of .62 will also be rated as dysplastic by OFA.

PennHIP ratings are better than OFA ratings in
predicting offspring hip ratings. PennHIP ratings are
being used in the research that has located major
genetic contributors to hip dysplasia.

I personally would not use this dog in my breeding program whether the dog passed OFA or not. The likelihood of this dog producing dysplasia in offspring is quite high.

I agree, in answer to your question about these specific PennHip scores, they are not good. What
you do from here is your decision. Good luck whatever you choose.

A recent PennHIP evaluation I did (January) had DI of 0.71 left & 0.47 right, which fell in the 10% laxity profile ranking for our breed (based on the loosest hip). It also reported no DJD, no cavitation, and no other findings. This was corroborated by the OFA final - mild hip dysplasia, unilateral left, subluxation (no DJD). Whether or not you'll breed based on your results is up to you. I won't breed this bitch, and in fact she is spayed & placed. Your dog's PennHIP rating is similar to this.

Another recent report I received had DI's of 0.46 & 0.48 - which fell in the 50% bracket. She had OFA "good" results. I've been doing PennHIP and OFA's for quite some time, and I've found the additional information very useful in determining how "good" or "fair" a particular dog's hips are. And I've never seen wildly variable results between the two. Maybe that's because of the skill of the vet I use for all the films.

That would be like saying she has a good hip and a mildly dysplastic hip. Genetic issues are bilateral from what I understand, OFA is only an opinion and PennHip has a definate impact on a breeding program. They all should be used to make a decision, not to be used as law.

My first dog easily got his Championships but when PennHip-ed scored in the 30th percentile... My vet was quite specific in stating any dog scoring below 50th percentile should NOT be used for breeding and he has not been ... to do so would not contribute to the breed.

Genetic component regarding hip dys. - it does not have to be bilateral to be genetic

I have seen several cases of what would be excellent PennHip only being Good OFA and also seen poor PennHip be OFA Good

According to PennHIP standards, a score at the 50% range is not exemplary and in Labs is likely to result in DJD in the later years of a Lab's life. PennHIP now
recommends breeding only the top 40% of PennHIP scores to improve the breed.

So yes, this dog does have bilateral evidence of
future DJD--even though bilateral-ness is not necessary to consider a problem genetically transmitted.

The best correlations between OFA and PennHIP occur at the far ends of the bell curve--the very best and the very worst scores. In the middle (e.g., OFA Good and Fair and PennHIPs in the 50%) OFA ratings and PennHIP ratings may be quite different from one another. Only PennHIP has enough ability to predict offspring
scores to make it useful for breeding purposes.

I have a bitch who DI number were both .6 something. I would have to pull paperwork at home to be sure of the exact numbers. Her PennHip was done at 4 months by a vet in our area that does a lot of PennHips and a lot of JPS surgery, I later found out. He said she would not be suitable for breeding or any performance events and I should allow him to do JPS surgery on her. Of course, I refused the surgery. I kept the bitch because I loved everything about her. After she turned a year I took her to an orthopedic specialist for OFA prelims. She came back OFA EXCELLENT and Elbow Normal. I am so glad I did not listen to the the PennHip results. She is now almost 3 and still OFA EXCELLENT. She is a very beautiful bitch that has done well in all events and is hopefully pregnant with her first litter.

So my advise is the wait until your dog is old enough to have OFA's done.

JMHO

PennHIP clearly states that PennHIP evaluations at 4 months do not correlate precisely with PennHIP evaluations at 12 or 24 months. 4-month evaluations can only be used as a general guides.

PennHIP also does not recommend JPS surgery decisions at 4 months based only on PennHIP.

I'm sorry you had such a bad experience with a PennHIP vet that you feel his recommendations were colored by the fact that he could make money on the surgery.

Nonetheless, PennHIP has research to support its ability to predict the likelihood of producing DJD in offspring, which is the real issue when it comes to evaluations for breeding.