forgive me for spelling, etc.

8 hours of whelp.

first pup born asspirated and we did good he was breathing thru nose about 3 hours later.

but, cant' get him to nurse. tried kayro, and worked great the first time but than nothing

my goal now is to keep him hydrated till I can get to the vet for sub Q in the a.m.

no ERs near me.

can someone help please.

this is the hardest whelp in 40 years and I truly don't want to lose this choc. boy.

i plan to stay up with him all night long giving drops of boiled/cooled water with kayro added - but each time I give one drop he reverts back to the gasping for air.

and i mean "just" one drop.....

can anyone help. I am so drained but sleeping on the floor all night long next to the whelping box to get this baby thru the night till i can get to my vet.

I have to say he is a strong willed boy, struggles and verbally protests each time I swing him down to aspirate (if you know what I mean). good sign no doubt.

PLEASE HELP ME SAVE THIS BABY

TIA

So sorry to hear about your baby. Wish I could help but haven't had that many litters. Have you checked for a cleft palate? As you hold him keep his head lower than his body, you should see some fluid come out of his nose. I wouldn't swing him, they say that is not a good practice with newborns. Keep trying to aspirate him to get all the fluids out.Keep him warm..but I am sure you are doing all these things...Praying he will make it until you can get him to the vets..
So so sorry

Did you check him for cleft palate? It sounds like it. Normal strong hungry puppy, but can't suck?
The most important thing is to keep him warm. Can you get some milk from the mother? that would be the best you can give him. A few CCs would do for now.

I hope it is not it, and that he will do good.

A couple yrs ago we had our first cleft puppy. I got in the habit of not checking for clefts as we had not had one in over 14 years. This boy puppy was not sucking either but was a strong little guy. No fluid was coming out of his nose so I didn't think of a cleft until a couple days later when I noticed his weight was way down compared to his siblings. I opened up his mouth and sure enough, he had a wide trench up there. There is no way he could grasp onto a bottle nipple or mother's teet. You can bet I check every puppy when they are born.
I hope this isn't the case for you and you are able to get your handsome chocolate baby to spring back and start thriving

Did you try liver water instead of just karo? It saves pups, I've seen it myself. If you're breeding 40 years, not near an ER vet I'm sure you have supplies to give subq fluids. Did you try to dispense subq fluids yourself? It sounds like dehydration to me. I hope your puppy is doing better today and you saved him with fluids or drove to the closest ER. Try to update us when you can about your litter. I hope it all went better since your post.

Please DON'T shake or swing your puppy, this dangerous technique is not used any more. Think about it would you want your Dr. to swing or shake your newborn human baby?

Swinging is not recommended anymore. It can cause brain damage. I would use other methods to clear him and get to the vet. I hope he makes it and doubt it's a cleft palate.

thank you all.

no cleft, sub Qs given and did go to the ER. x-rays revealed lung damage.

Unfortunately we lost him at 8:30 this morning.

RIP my sweet, sweet boy.

I'm very sorry to hear this news - hugs from here!

x-ray showed the aspiration which had done damage.

rest of pups are doing fine thankyou.

http://www.whelpwise.com/mucus-traps.html

WORKS GREAT!

How many people use those mucous traps ? I got one with this kit I bought last year but didn't want to use it until someone showed me. I've never tube fed and this contraption reminded me of tube feeding geer. I was taught to do the swing method but no longer do it. I use my bulb to suction nose and throat good.

Those traps are excellent. Anyone that has a litter should have one on hand.

How do you use them?

Do a search for them you can get them for about $3@.