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Re: Heart Murmer

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Does a heart murmer always mean TVD?
Vet said it was a 3 out of 6 in a 12 week old pup.
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We have produced many innocent heart murmurs over the years. Usually a grade 1 or 2, once a general vet gave grade 3. All of these were gone by 16 weeks, never to return.

I wouldn't spend the time or money for a cardiologist at 12 weeks old. If murmur is still there at 16 weeks old, yes, then I'd start to run the whole gammit. Just how we've done it here. If it's a real issue for concern, it will still be present at 16 weeks.

Between 8-12 weeks old the pups blood supply increases, often giving a benign flow murmur. You may be just at the end of this normal growth phase. Also, generalist vets tend to rate murmurs too high - higher than if a cardiologist were listening.

Is the pup eating normally with good appetite or does he/she stop to rest while eating? Does pup have normal puppy energy or is he/she doing an excessive amount of resting? The clinical presentation of pup is also a huge indicator of if it's time to seek out a cardiology consultation.

Re: Heart Murmer

Sure, there are other heart defects. A cardiologist may be able to tell from the location and sound of the murmur if it is TVD or something else.

The one that checked my TVD pup listened then said it was highly unlikely to be anything else but TVD, did we still want an echo? Well, we had the echo done anyway so the breeder would have confirmation of the diagnosis.

My general vet was not able to determine the exact problem just by listening. Have a cardiologist consultation to find out what you are dealing with. If you are near South Carolina go see Dr. Baumwart. That is who we went to, before he moved to SC.

Re: Heart Murmer

Murmurs can be caused by any number of defects and can also be "innocent murmurs" that go away with age. Why worry and get gray hairs over it? You need a correct diagnosis and only a Cardiologist can do so. They may be able to do so with only an asculatation, which is a minimal fee (in our area $45 or so). If it is serious, regardless of cause, you may have to intervene surgically, or make an even tougher decision.

Make the appointment and make your decisions based upon what the cardiologist tells you.

Good Luck!

Leslee Pope
Huntcrest

Re: Heart Murmer

As the Stage 3 murmur can be caused by a no. of different reasons including TVD, seeing a cardiologist as already stated would be the best, most knowledgable vet to work with. A cardio has many sized stethescopes and a 2d color echo Doppler.

I personally feel, most cardiologists will recommend a Doppler immediately after auscultation. Try to find a clinic near you or a little further, it's worth the ride for a proper diagnosis. I hope it's something minor and you'll be able to let out at sigh of relief.