I don't care one way or another, but I do love finding out about all the new "marketing" crap the BYBs pull to sell a litter. Champion lines is an oldie but goodie. Vet bred sounds like it's a good one trying to hoodwink the public. Like when BYB's say I don't do testing but my vet checked the dogs and they were fine to breed.
Just curious, but if the litter is really vet-bred, the person spent money to do AI. Perhaps they researched pedigrees, did clearances, etc. I thought BYBs where those who just bred their girls to whatever dog happened to be nearby.
In my neck of the woods there is a volume breeder that shows a little, does clearances,and floods the market with pups year round sired by her own stud dogs. She has several litters per month, not per year. Give me one little BYB to compete with any day.
BTW, I wish people would be kinder on this list. I respect that everyone has the right to disagree, but do it politely. After last week's tragedy we should all try to be a little nicer to one another.
Please re-read what I posted. Never did I say the volume breeder didn't have the right to breed as he/she does -- I just said I'd rather compete with one BYB than someone who breeds to that extent.
You're correct in saying that I could contact authorities to check on the conditions at the kennel, but it's not my business to do so. Actually I like this person -- but I find having him/her in my area has made it more difficult to find good local homes for the one litter of puppies I breed each year. Would I breed to that extent? No, I wouldn't -- I couldn't afford to vet and feed forty to sixty dogs! I don't know how any of the volume breeders do it.
I thank you for your opinion and hope you will respect mine.
So it's a matter of competition for you then? Does she honestly have that many dogs or are you just guessing? Have you ever visited her facility or are you just guessing? Do you know if she is licensed and inspected? Do you think it's wrong for her to breed that much? Why?
Obviously for those all in a huff about us minding our own business, makes me think they are feeling a little defensive. I certainly don't want folks in my business but at least I sleep well at night knowing I've tried to do the right thing. And most of us know what the wrong things are.
You may be feeling "to each his own" but I would never steer a friend or an enemy towards a BYB if I knew better. And if your website or newspaper ad screams BYB, then if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, I am betting it's a duck.
Kids and tragedies have nothing to do with people supporting BYB practices.
You know, if it became illegal to advertise any animal in a newspaper I think there would be a lot less BYB litters because there wouldn't be an easy way to market them. This isn't saying the person mentioned in the OP is a BYB, how do you know that she is? I know responsible breeders who have advertised in the paper.
"Only" about 3-4 million dogs die in shelters these days?????
I agree that a big part of being a responsible breeder is to be responsible for every single puppy until the day they die. That includes taking them back when and if the family asks for it. There is a number of people that will not contact the breeder and will take the puppy/dog to a shelter because it is easier. The breeder might live too far away.
Chill, being open minded about being open or closed minded is part of being open minded. Accept that the other people is not as open minded as you are. Keep educating in a nice way and move on.
BYB's and anti-breeding legislation are two different topics. This thread isn't about anti-breeding legislation, start your own thread. Enough said, your too much, I pity the man that ends up with you. Have a Merry Christmas!
Oh and talk about changing names like people change underwear, it's obvious your (Chill) the only one doing that in this thread.
I know the person has that many dogs because his/her spouse told me. (They live together and are a happy couple; we were simply conversing about Labs when it popped up. I deliberately left out the exact number in my post because this was told to me last year when the numbers were at the high end, but they were trying to place some of the dogs, so maybe they're now at the low end.)
I wouldn't do that because I don't think it's fair to the dogs, especially Labs who love human contact so much. I also don't think it's fair to the puppies because you can't give each one the kind of attention he/she needs. But that's just my opinion; it doesn't have to be shared by anyone else.
Have a nice Christmas
The original point was--to place an ad stating you have a litter of puppies "vet bred" when the vet is not the owner of the litter seems just a little dishonest. When a potential puppy buyer comes to see the pups and asks who/where the vet is...?? It implies a stamp of approval by a vet that might or might not exist.
Wow... Merry Christmas, everyone. My guess is there was a lot of coal handed out this year