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Re: Sit stay - Not sit spin!

Agreed, the suggestions you have gotten about getting a solid sit are needed.

I do think however that dogs go into the position or find the position where they have been reinforced the most. ( IN front) and if you think about it that is what your dog is doing.. going to the reinforcement zone that has been established for eye contact, fronts and recalls.

Once you have your sit solid. I think you need to work on your dog learning to stay in that sit while you reward with dog in heel position and not in front. She/He needs to learn that treats come in that position too since in essence doing a finish is the dog going around you to find heel.

If you have not rewarded heel position from your left hand down to the dog enough why would the dog go there?
I start with having the dog sit on my Left next to a wall on the left side of the dog/ on leash. Then just do once step at a time so the dog is learning to come up to heel position and then sit in baby steps. By putting more money in the bank for that position the dog will learn to find it on their own.

The finish is a complex series of behaviors that includes the dog learning to find heel and then sit.

Best of luck with your training.
Kim.

Re: Sit stay - Not sit spin!

How wonderful all the good /accurate advise that was given. And how dog was 'read' regarding 'watch' position. Everything is in step, by step progress which means success takes time.