Most are at $1,200 to $1,500 around us. Not going down but up.
I thought everything looked up as well. I am still shocked at the $2,000 though. I am not relishing looking for a new pup next year. I need to take a second mortgage out.
I am not a breeder, I am a buyer, have 6 Labs, all boys.
14 y/o - Purchased in the West at a Ducks Unlimited dinner auction (did not know better)- $600 -
12 y/o - Reputable breeder in Mid-West- $800
6 y/o - Reputable breeder in Mid-West- $900 (same breeder as above)- multiple titles
3 y/o - Reputable breeder in North East- $1300 limited registration - PerformanceTitle
3 y/o - Reputable breeder in North East- $1500 full registration/co-owner with breeder/ multiple titles
1 y/o - Reputable breeder in North East- $1500 (same breeder as above) full registration/co-owner w breeder
Does this mean the cost for stud fees reflect these puppy prices? $2000 seems a bit high for a stud service.
What is the going rate on a proven GCH. Stud fee??
How much for puppies out of puppies on prelims?
Along the same lines :
13 yo - Reputable breeder East coast - $800 - has multiple performance and hunting titles
5 yo - Reputable breeder Mid-West - $1000 - full registration - has multiple performance titles, hates ducks
1 year old - Reputable breeder East coast - $2000 - full registration (but is the ugliest dog of the bunch..... good thing she is an awesome worker and should clean up on performance and hunting titles)
This subject comes up periodically. It has nothing to do with the cost of the stud fee. It has to do with THE COST OF LIVING for that area.
Here in the Northeastern area, all of our costs are high. Housing, taxes, etc.
My friends' really nice house in Ohio was around $250,00 but the same house in northern and central NJ will go for between $500,000 and $750,000. Property taxes on a 4-bedroom house on under an acre in Central Jersey go for around $16,000 - $18,000 a year. A really nice house in areas like Rumson, NJ have property taxes of $36,000 A YEAR.
In particular, vet costs are very high. For example, it costs about $550 to get a bitch spayed. C-sections are well over $1200 for normal hours and upwards of $2200+ for an emergency C-sect. Hip/Elbow x-rays with anesthesia can run $450 - $550.
So, the bottom line is, it costs more to produce and raise puppies in some areas of the country than it does in others. Breeders who charge more are not price gouging. They are barely covering their vet, food and housing expenses.
Wow, $1500-$2000 for a puppy! Golly, and here people gave me grief last year over my 2 litters, who were placed for $800!
Can't just say stud fee equals pup price. A $1,200 stud fee is just the start. $200 or $300. for Prog testing. Boxes. Extender and shiping can be $80.00 to $160.00 a pop. So to breed a litter is more like almost $2,000. So yes, the pups are worth every penny of it. But it depends on your area and if you have a Puppy mill person selling them for alot less. We all stick together in our area.
Stud fees are $1000-$1500 on average.
Why would anyone expect a discount on a puppy from a "prelim'd" xray breeding? Are you willing to pay double for a puppy from a "champion" sire or dam with "official" clearances?
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As a puppy buyer, I would want a puppy out of adults that have proven themselves worthy of being bred, have final clearances, etc. Otherwise there really is no difference between that litter and one between two family pets- it is the same roll of the dice. If a breeder wants to take a risk on a 10 month old puppy as a producer, that is their choice, but I would not pay premium prices for a puppy out of that litter as the buyer's risk is much higher, and the eventual puppy buyer is expected to care for that dog for the rest of its life, including all of the resulting expenses. When said puppy dog is bred to an equally unproven bitch, the risk just increases, A 10 month old puppy is not old enough to have proven themselves worthy of anything except possibly being kept as a prospect. No one has invested anything in that dog to a meaningful extent, so to charge premium prices for its offspring seems ridiculous. Every breed club out there provides guidelines regarding what to look for in a breeder and in the sire/dam of a potential puppy. This goes against everything recommended and good common sense.
We ARE paying double for puppies out of champion sires, etc. Bitch owners pay higher stud fees for proven dogs as well. This is what theoretically makes the difference between backyard bred pup prices and well-bred pup prices. The breeder actually invest their time, $ and energy into their dogs and ensuring they are breeding only the best. When we see more and more young puppy males being bred to bitches that do nothing but sit in a whelping box, I have to wonder what the difference is between that and a BYB litter, other than the price."
This is utter nonsense. I have a young boy not yet 2 yrs. He has OFA EX prelims/elbows pass/Echo/Optigen/EIC clear/CERF , I hardly think that using a young dog with those clearances is the same as a BYB ! Expecially when both of his parents are MBISS CH.with all their clearances. Some people speak without knowing anything about the subject!