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Re: Please HELP!!

We had a litter a while ago with cows milk allergy. He couldn't eat yogurt cheese or milk. This could be your problem.

If they are negative for coccidia and giardias this is what I have tried. I boil white rice one cup dry to two cups liquid low sodium chicken broth. Adjust to your puppies. I buy plain Pedialyte and mix with some chicken broth for them to drink. We have also used the canned pumpkin.

If it is still loose I have used the old time remedy of boiling five or six cloves down in water and giving them each a dropper with some of the cooled liquid.

Re: Please HELP!!

receipe for more sleep.

to keep our puppies clean when they are about 5-6 weeks. we put up a childrens pool, and put pine chips in the pool, and an ex pen around the pool. when the puppies go to the bathroom, it does not make a big mess, and it keeps the puppies cleaner, and you can sleep.

the next morning, we change the pool out, and use a fresh clean pool, and pine chips, and change it out again when needed. you can get the pools at walmart and k-mart in the summer time.

at the same time, the puppies get a new environment, coccodia is in the earth, i believe it takes very HOT water to kill it.

this can give you time to clean the area where the puppies, and mom have been living, and rince with boiling hot water,

Re: Please HELP!!

My guess is it was Coccidia as the Ponazuril firmed some of the stool.

At this point, I'd give Peptobismol at .5ml per pound of pup weight to firm stool. I'd give it before bedtime and again 12 hours later. Pups' intestinal flora has taken a beating. Even excess probiotics add to the diarrhea. Pepto will firm stool until all is in balance again.

I've dealt with this situation too many times. My pups go outside for socialization periods at 5 weeks. Coccidia is in bird poop, rabbit waste, etc. It rarely shows on stool tests. I now give DiMethox (liquid Albon) in pups' water at 5 weeks for a week, then again at 7 weeks old for a week. I've never had the issue since starting the DiMethox.(Dosing on this forum and online.)

Re: Please HELP!!

RN

I've dealt with this situation too many times. My pups go outside for socialization periods at 5 weeks. Coccidia is in bird poop, rabbit waste, etc. It rarely shows on stool tests. I now give DiMethox (liquid Albon) in pups' water at 5 weeks for a week, then again at 7 weeks old for a week. I've never had the issue since starting the DiMethox.(Dosing on this forum and online.)


Coccidia is species specific, a dog doesn't get coccidia from bird or rabbit poop! Dogs get coccidia from dog feces or anything contaminated with dog feces or by eating a rodent (not their poop) that picked up coccidia incidentally. It's slso possible for your dog to get coccidia from eating a fly or insect that mechanically picked up coccidia. The most common way puppies pick it up is from the mother in the whelping box and it can show up at 2 weeks of age or later when the pup is stressed. Cleanliness and reducing stress can help prevent the disease.

Re: Please HELP!!

Cystoisospora
RN

I've dealt with this situation too many times. My pups go outside for socialization periods at 5 weeks. Coccidia is in bird poop, rabbit waste, etc. It rarely shows on stool tests. I now give DiMethox (liquid Albon) in pups' water at 5 weeks for a week, then again at 7 weeks old for a week. I've never had the issue since starting the DiMethox.(Dosing on this forum and online.)


Coccidia is species specific, a dog doesn't get coccidia from bird or rabbit poop! Dogs get coccidia from dog feces or anything contaminated with dog feces or by eating a rodent (not their poop) that picked up coccidia incidentally. It's slso possible for your dog to get coccidia from eating a fly or insect that mechanically picked up coccidia. The most common way puppies pick it up is from the mother in the whelping box and it can show up at 2 weeks of age or later when the pup is stressed. Cleanliness and reducing stress can help prevent the disease.


WRONG!! Michigan State University College of Veterinary Science has done extensive research on this. Pups absolutely DO get coccidia from other animals' waste!

Re: Please HELP!!

RN
Cystoisospora
RN

I've dealt with this situation too many times. My pups go outside for socialization periods at 5 weeks. Coccidia is in bird poop, rabbit waste, etc. It rarely shows on stool tests. I now give DiMethox (liquid Albon) in pups' water at 5 weeks for a week, then again at 7 weeks old for a week. I've never had the issue since starting the DiMethox.(Dosing on this forum and online.)


Coccidia is species specific, a dog doesn't get coccidia from bird or rabbit poop! Dogs get coccidia from dog feces or anything contaminated with dog feces or by eating a rodent (not their poop) that picked up coccidia incidentally. It's slso possible for your dog to get coccidia from eating a fly or insect that mechanically picked up coccidia. The most common way puppies pick it up is from the mother in the whelping box and it can show up at 2 weeks of age or later when the pup is stressed. Cleanliness and reducing stress can help prevent the disease.


WRONG!! Michigan State University College of Veterinary Science has done extensive research on this. Pups absolutely DO get coccidia from other animals' waste!


MSU Link? My vet says from dog poo.

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Merck manual lists various species of coccidia protozoans. Some can infect dogs and cats, with rodents as intermediate hosts, apparently. If the rodents are intermediate hosts, can't their scat pass it to the dogs? How, if not by poop, do rodents pass it to carnivores--in muscle? or in intestines, which of course have poop? I wonder if OP also has cats on the property, her own or ferals?
http://www.merckmanuals.com/vet/digestive_system/coccidiosis/coccidiosis_of_cats_and_dogs.html

"Hammondia has an obligatory 2-host life cycle with cats or dogs as final hosts and rodents or ruminants as intermediate hosts, respectively. Hammondia oocysts are indistinguishable from those of Toxoplasma and Besnoitia but are nonpathogenic in either host. (see also Besnoitiosis, see Sarcocystosis, and see Toxoplasmosis.)

"The most common coccidia of cats and dogs are Isospora. Some Isospora spp of cats and dogs can facultatively infect other mammals and produce in various organs an encysted form that is infective for the cat or dog. Two species infect cats: I felis and I rivolta; both can be identified easily by oocyst size and shape. Almost every cat eventually becomes infected with I felis. Four species infect dogs: I canis, I ohioensis, I burrowsi, and I neorivolta. In dogs, only I canis can be identified by the oocyst structure; the other 3 Isospora overlap in dimensions and can be differentiated only by endogenous developmental characteristics."

Note that insects are also listed as needing control to control the protozoan. Flies are nasty!