Labrador Retriever Forum

General Forum
Start a New Topic 
Author
Comment
View Entire Thread
Re: Hobby Income tax question ??

I know a breeder who was audited. The auditor asked if she still showed her senior. She said no. He said, then you can't deduct her food, and didn't allow the amount of food her retired dogs eat to be deducted.

Now, bear in mind, that doesn't mean he is right, but you would then have to appeal his descision.

It may also matter if you are filing as business or hobby income; I don't know. I would make the argument that my retirees are goodwill ambassdors for my breeding program. I would make the case that they help me sell puppies, because prospective buyers are impressed when they see grandmas and great grandmas to the puppy they are considering.

You can call the IRS and ask them, but like a previous poster said, you still only have about a 50/50 chance of being right. Even if you ask the question, they don't have to honor their answer.

Mike

Re: Hobby Income tax question ??

Tax Lady
The person at the IRS didn't explain it so that you could understand, or she wasn't answering your question correctly. You actually have about a 50 - 50 chance of them getting it right, sad but true.
If you are hand writing your return attach a sheet itemizing all your expenses (food, mileage, entry fees, vet fees, training classes, leashes, supplements, etc etc) and attach. If you have software, it should print out for you. Make out the list and walk away from it till the next morning, I bet you will think of something you forgot overnight. Just put the RE taxes and mortgage on the appropriate lines on the A, you will get a larger deduction that way. You definitely DO NOT deduct it from your expenses.




Here is what the IRS lady said, the maximum hobby deductions minus real estate taxes & mortgage. Not that I deduct them from Hobby expenses. She said that is how I figure the maxium Hobby deductions.

But put the real eseate taxes & mortgage on the appropriate lines to take off full amount.

Here is the Publication 535 she got her info from:

Not-for-Profit Activities--- page 5

Limit on Deductions---- 3 catagories


I am so confused. I thought I had it figured out, but not now

Re: Hobby Income tax question ??

This is exactly why the tax code needs to be simplified - a flat tax of some sort would be great. The absurdity of the complexity of the rules and regulations regarding taxes is just ridiculous. How is a normal person supposed to do their taxes if the "experts" can't figure them out either!

Amazing!

Re: Hobby Income tax question ??

I don't think the concept of a flat tax has anything to do with this situation. Business profits are totally different from individual income. Business would still have to determine expenditures to calculate profit.

Breeder
This is exactly why the tax code needs to be simplified - a flat tax of some sort would be great. The absurdity of the complexity of the rules and regulations regarding taxes is just ridiculous. How is a normal person supposed to do their taxes if the "experts" can't figure them out either!

Amazing!