What's the going stud fee on a frozen dog? (dog is deceased)

I have seen it go from any where from $1000- $3000, plus all costs. I have one in the plans that it's $2000.

I have frozen on some of my dogs that I won't sell at any price and the others it's $1200.

For those that say it should be the same , it costs alot to have it collected, evaluated with each collection(and some is lost each time) and stored for years on end.

$500 + shipping + progesterone + surgical implant. Got 6 lovely pups too.

Just paid $1500 for a breeding unit....no other costs incurred yet....

Sue Puff

You sound more correct with $1,000 to $3,000 plus other costs then the $500 fee paid. I paid more then that over 12 years ago. A fee of $600 was paid to the owner for the semen out of a deceased, well known stud-dog. A TC was done, the kind G. Govete of Clone U.S.A. used from Norway. He did 2 prog. levels, I did 2 more at home prior, plus 3 days of a low $20 daily board charge. The total equaled about $1000 for everything except my bitches clearances and up keep which I don't count. Oh yes, it was plus gas for a very long trip to Clone, PA, U.S.A. twice. Total was about $1,000 plus gas well over a decade ago.

That litter was 9 pups. It was my girls' last breeding & whelping before age 6. She free whelped for the 3rd & last time, 9 pups each breeding with only 1 TC. I've never done a surgical implant and will avoid them if possible. I've watched both, TC's work just as well for my breedings anyway. The smallest TC frozen litter I've had was 6 pups. I never used or will use frozen with a maiden bitch. It is or was usually closer to a last breeding, not the first. Jmo.

If he's a quality stud-dog in his live years, you'll pay more then the average $1,000 stud fee. It shouldn't be less to my knowlege. Then you have other fees as I'm sure you know already.

I'm sure you'll hear all different stories. The bottom line with frozen is timing, being right on that timing be it TC or SI.

What happens if the breeding does not take?
How is a repeat breeding handled?
Thanks!

Generally there is no repeat. You spend your money, buy a breeding unit, and take your chances. The repro vets I am friends with and work with recommend surgicals. You're spending a fortune, put it where it needs to be at the right time it needs to be. Viability on frozen is not as good as fresh or extended...my vet just did a surgical with 15 year old semen and they got 7 pups on a 7 year old bitch. A lab, free whelped. Surgicals, with a good vet and the new aesthetics are quick and easy.

Sue Puff

It's at your risk, there is no repeat normally.

Be aware if you use an experienced vet for a TC or SI, your litter size should be no less then a litter by shipped chilled or doing a side by side AI. Make sure you and the vet doing whichever procedure have the timing right. That's where errors can occur. An 8 hour error can reap you a litter of 2 pups instead of 8 pups along with the costs and dangers of an unplanned c-section. No reason to do a c-section just because frozen semen was used but discuss that with your vet..

How many straws did you get for your $1500 breeding unit? I usually get 2 to 3 straws depending on who I work with and who the dog was.

If you get 2 or 3 straws, isn't only one needed for a breeding? With SI there is only one breeding so if you only used one straw you would have a repeat breeding at a later time if the bitch didn't take, correct? Isn't only one straw needed/breeding?

I usually do transcervials, not surgical implants without a miss. So my repro has used at least 2 straws to answer it from a tc perspective. As long as it doesn't flow outward terribly you can use as much as you want. It's spun down and a straw is not alot of semen like a side by side AI is.

btw I paid $1800 for 3 straws last time.

It depends on how it's done, how long ago it's done, what the semen quality (motility and abnormalities present) at freezing. Some marginal semen, quality wise, and frozen oven 10 or 12 years ago took 7 straws. This was frozen by symbiotics and based on a calculation of motility,abnormalities and numbers of sperm cells. For newer frozen dogs with high quality. It may only take one or two straws. Another I'm hoping to buy is 2 straws to a unit. Same price. The semen I bought this year was 3 or 4 straws to a unit. I don't remember exactly and it was frozen 10 years ago. I'm not at home so I can't look it up.

And viability IS different for frozen vs fresh vs chilled. I did my masters in reproduction and studied it. Dogs are even worse than other species. That's why timing is so important is using frozen dog semen. If you are interested in peer reviewed papers on the subject, search google scholar or ask your vet to do a search on VIN, a vet subscription network. Also the journal of Theriogenology. Regardless....progesterone timing is critical. Unfortunately, I wish canine repro was as easy as that in production species like cattle and horses.

Sue Puff

Done correctly, the semen should be collected, frozen & then thawed to determine how many straws are needed per breeding. The person doing this needs to be an experienced repro specialist.

For starters, assuming you do a surgical insemination, you need 150,000,000 sperm for fertilization. Take the case in which the semen has been frozen, thawed and tested and has 80% viability. The repro vet has straws containing 100,000,000 per straw. That would come to 200,000,000 for 2 straws. At 80% viability, that would come to 160,000,000 in 2 straws. Two would be the correct number of straws for this semen.

Clearly if there are fewer sperm per straw, or if the viability is not 80%, you could need more straws. You really have to know what you are dealing with.

Bought 4 breedings from three different studs:
2- $900 (dog is deceased, has been for at least 15yrs)
1- $1250 (got a discount of $250 due to this stud still producing viable semen, and the owner is a friend)
1- $1500

All are in the pelleted form which I love, so does the reproductive vet, especially since he helped pioneer the method. Surgical implants take him a total of ten minutes from incision to last stitch, are done through the flank with only a 2 1/2 to 3 inch incision. Weeks stay (usually NOT needed), progesterone testing (in house), and surgery run $600 or LESS. Usually closer to $350-400 with just a two night stay to monitor incision and to make sure timing is correct.
They have a 96+% conception rate with litter size averaging 6 pups.

Will be doing two breedings next year (one spring, one fall). One with the $1250 semen, one with semen that is 20 yrs old. Can't wait!!!!

Gotta love the frozen assets! No poop, no barking, no shedding, no feeding, no vet bills, cheaper to "board" and ship, and they can potentially live forever! Why own a stud dog? :)