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How To Find Dilutes In The Database

If you want to check a Labrador’s pedigree, you can visit the LabradorNet Database, or the LRCN Database. There’s no difference between these databases. You can also find dilutes in the database, Just follow these simple steps:
http://notosilverlabs.wordpress.com/2014/01/18/how-to-find-dilutes-in-the-database/

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Why are there non-dilute dogs marked as beware? Are those lines that aren't as well known as being dilute?

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You can also find them in our very own American data base Huntinglabpedigrees,com type in or look up silver in the names, Here are a few examples without all the bewares since they are in non dilute dogs also.

Also look at all of the Charcoal names before the chocolates were born, No Kellogg here. One goes to the Beaver Creek Line and another to a dilute carrier that was never bred.

http://huntinglabpedigree.com/offspring.asp?id=6803&name=%20Charcoal%20Bluestem%20Dottie%20

My suggestion would to go through the OFA data for silver or just try some names in a pedigree search with the AKC, buy them and see where the dilutes came from.

I did and came up with this dog, Curbow's Silver Hershe Bar http://huntinglabpedigree.com/pedigree.asp?id= Now there was a silver son in the OFAs but the sire also has a silver name. Where did the sire get two lines of the dilute gene? One goes to Kellogg and the other we don't know without the stud books.

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Just because a dog has "silver" in its name doesn't mean the dog was a dilute.

It's also possible that some pedigrees are falsified. I know one silver breeder who lists Eng. Am Ch Lawnwood's Hot Chocolate as a sire of a dilute. This dog was used extensively in our American show lines and never produced a dilute even when line bred on. So either this breeder is lying or the dog has a false pedigree and is not sire by Hot Chocolate. Janet Churchill imported this dog and wrote a book on the history of the Labrador. She explained the different alleles that were active in our breed and what roles they played in which colors were in the breed. She even states under the D locus that Labs do not carry the "d" allele responsible for dilutes.

I also know that earlier on when AKC was investigating silvers, that one kennel was found to have false DNA on their silver dogs and their AKC privileges were revoked.

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We all know that they used to use silver in names until they started breeding silvers. Heck you can't even use Blue or Charcoal in a name and the charcoal briquettes we buy are pretty black.
To say that Lawnwoods Hot Chocolate produced silvers is outlandish.