This again??? Same old, same old. Can we talk about something new on this forum?
Problem lies in what judges reward, period. Talk to your judges. Don't come on here and whine. Is it because your dogs has leg and does not win? Then find judges to show to that reward length of leg and movement!

If you mentor young/new breeders…EDUCATE. And go breed dogs with LEG!!!


I think this forum should be named the Wiscoy Whiners….lololol




Lighten up…and trust some of us judges to do our job to make sure stumpy dogs do not get rewarded