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Re: X-rays won't pass

If you read my response, I said that it would be something to think about. In the OP circumstance, I would not breed the bitch, that was not what I was saying. I, myself, have never bred anything less than fair and almost 100% of my pairings have been OFA good or better. I guess there is just no room for discussion here without someone getting their hackles up.

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If you read my response, I said that it would be something to think about. In the OP circumstance, I would not breed the bitch, that was not what I was saying. I, myself, have never bred anything less than fair and almost 100% of my pairings have been OFA good or better. I guess there is just no room for discussion here without someone getting their hackles up.

Yep, that's about it...

Re: X-rays won't pass

It is my understanding that the bitch has DI of over .65 and someone said that would probably place her in the 20%. I also understand that none of her x-rays were sent to OFA?

If thats the case send in the x-rays. I had a bitch placed 30% so high DI scores, but she OFA'd good. Now there is a dileama of what to do.

Re: X-rays won't pass

It looks as though the general consensus on this particular thread is that the OP's bitch should not be bred.

But it concerns me that several posts, such as the most recent, advise to try different methods of getting around what is already known which is that the bitch has questionable hips and hip lines??

I find that irresponsible at best, deceitful for sure!! In my opinion, that puts those that do such things right down there in the barrel with back yard breeders!!

Either we are going to use the tools that are available to us right now to breed strong, healthy dogs or we aren't. The same people who advertise their OFA certifications shouldn't then twist and turn those certifications when things don't go their way.

I understand that things happen, even between good hip lines but if we know what we know about a particular dog then why go looking for trouble?? And don't forget, we breeders aren't the ones watching beloved pets suffer from poor hips. It's the families we entrusted our puppies to who go through the heartache and financial setback. Not to mention what we may have put a dog through!!

This is not directed at the OP and it is just my opinion.

Re: X-rays won't pass

She did not pass OFA's DON'T BREED HER. She can't be that perfect that you would put pups who could have a problem the rest of their life in familys hands. Let the breeder breed something else. There are a ton of pups out there. Try again.

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concerned about the irresponsible advice on this thread!!!
It looks as though the general consensus on this particular thread is that the OP's bitch should not be bred.

But it concerns me that several posts, such as the most recent, advise to try different methods of getting around what is already known which is that the bitch has questionable hips and hip lines??

I find that irresponsible at best, deceitful for sure!! In my opinion, that puts those that do such things right down there in the barrel with back yard breeders!!

Either we are going to use the tools that are available to us right now to breed strong, healthy dogs or we aren't. The same people who advertise their OFA certifications shouldn't then twist and turn those certifications when things don't go their way.

I understand that things happen, even between good hip lines but if we know what we know about a particular dog then why go looking for trouble?? And don't forget, we breeders aren't the ones watching beloved pets suffer from poor hips. It's the families we entrusted our puppies to who go through the heartache and financial setback. Not to mention what we may have put a dog through!!

This is not directed at the OP and it is just my opinion.


I agree. This bitch will not be bred.

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I did not and do not sanction breeding her. I just wanted to point out that the 2 do not agree. In the bitch that i mentioned She OFA'd good and everyone here would have bred her based on her OFA results. Then the Penn Hip results came in........