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Re: Price for a stud fee?

This is specifically directed at ME TOO. Your are incorrect in your rather impolite post about what the AKC will or will not do with regard to registering a litter. Yes, they will register a litter, regardless if the stud fee has been paid or not. Outstanding monetary disputes are not their business and they will tell you this up front. They want litters to be registered so please don't continue to post this erroneous information about AKC not registering a litter unless the stud dog owner signs off. It is you that is incorrect and yes, I do know who to collect and ship out semen and am aware that DNA testing needs to be done on stud that have produced three litters in one year or seven in their lifetime.

Re: Price for a stud fee?

Breeder
Charging $400-$500 stud fees is a little up there. I do not like that, but I did it once because I wanted to breed to that particular dog. It was a top producer.


Do I understand you correctly......you will only pay $400-500 for stud service?

Re: Price for a stud fee?

I charge $900.00 stud fee for my boys. This is the same for all of them. Whether they are the new kid on the block just having their first litters or the boy that has proven offspring winning in the ring. Like another mentioned, if I know someone or have worked with them before I offer the service fee. If I don't know them, I like to get the full fee upfront.

Re: Price for a stud fee?

Another Breeder .....
Breeder
Charging $400-$500 stud fees is a little up there. I do not like that, but I did it once because I wanted to breed to that particular dog. It was a top producer.


Do I understand you correctly......you will only pay $400-500 for stud service?

No, I said I won't regularly pay that, BUT I did once for this particular boy I really love and it paid off. I got an awesome litter.

Re: Price for a stud fee?

Perturbed
As a stud owner, I have a concern I'd like to mention regarding stud fees. I ask for the whole fee up front. Why? Because too many times, I've dealt with bitch owners who are relying on the money they hope to make from the sale of puppies to pay the stud fee. They offer to pay part of the fee or ask if they can wait until the puppies arrive. And as we all know, many things can go wrong that end up costing the bitch owner money. When that happens, who gets paid? The vet first, and then me maybe.
My stud contract is very clear. I try to work with people, but I've been burned more than once.


You may want to be more picky about the bitch owners you let breed to your boys.

Re: Price for a stud fee?

I might agree to the service fee if no litter is produced. The way I would agree is if the total fee was paid upfront and a portion returned if no litter was produced.

Seems fair to me.

Re: Price for a stud fee?

So I am reading all of this and it is sad to see such overal mistrust in the Labrador Community. When I stood a dog at Stud, I never had a problem with follow through on the Bitch owners' part. Of course he was never up for "Public Stud". I approved the bitch and the owners prior to agreeing to the breeding. If I did not "feel" this breeding was in the best interest of my boy or the breed I declined the request. If I didn't feel right about the Bitch owner I declined their request. I charged a small service fee up front for my time and care while the Bitch was at my home or if I traveled to the bitch for an AI(which I almost prefered). But when I did ship semen on the few occasions I did not charge a stud fee till puppies were produced. Heck it didn't take much effort to collect, extend, and prep the package for shipment. As far as I was concerned a Stud Fee was qualified only once puppies were produced. I guaranteed 3 live pups. 1 for you, 1 to cover your expense, and lastly 1 to cover the stud fee.
Maybe because I was a bitch owner first and my dogs are my pets first I wasn't caught up on the $$$. Sometimes the Stud fees came in fast an other time when a bitch owner had a Financial hardship it trickled in through a payment plan. In the end the money I spent on my boy for his clearances shows etc. were my choice and if I never made it back it was already money well spent. It was an honor when a breeder chose my boy to sire their litter.

Re: Price for a stud fee?

I charge a $200 fee up front which does not include shipping or boxes but does include 2 collections by a repro vet (not me) experienced in collections. It also includes semen analysis prior to shipment and a 2nd analysis of some of the extended semen the next day to compare to the semen that arrived at the shipping destination. Once 2 live puppies are born, an additional $800 is due.

I will not allow my boys to be bred to bitches that do not meet my minimum requirements or who have owners I am unsure of. This may not always work but it has so far.

As far as what a dog produces is concerned, as a bitch owner, yes, I would pay more for a dog that has truly produced well with a number of different pedigrees, but the offspring are the result of both parents, whether they are all pet quality or fabulous. The stud dog deserves neither all of the blame NOR all of the credit for the offspring. It is up to the bitch owner to know how to put together a breeding and for a stud dog owner to honestly answer any questions they may have.

Re: Price for a stud fee?

Stud Lee
I might agree to the service fee if no litter is produced. The way I would agree is if the total fee was paid upfront and a portion returned if no litter was produced.

Seems fair to me.


So, you either win or you either win. All losses are on the bitch owner???

Re: Price for a stud fee?

me too
Wrong. The AKC will NOT register the litter without the stud owner, period. Have you ever done this before??? It appears that you haven't since you don't know what your talking about. Why are you posting this garbage?

No, YOU are wrong. You have no clue and you are posting garbage.

Here is an e-mail response from the AKC:

You will have to send in the litter application all filled out minus the Sire owners signature with a letter to the following department.


American Kennel Club
Customer Registration Support
PO Box 900066
Raleigh, NC 27675
Fax - 919-816-4250


Please be sure you sign your letter of complaint.


Mary
AKC Customer Service Representative
http://www.akc.org/
919-233-9767

Re: Price for a stud fee?

:)
This is specifically directed at ME TOO. Your are incorrect in your rather impolite post about what the AKC will or will not do with regard to registering a litter. Yes, they will register a litter, regardless if the stud fee has been paid or not. Outstanding monetary disputes are not their business and they will tell you this up front. They want litters to be registered so please don't continue to post this erroneous information about AKC not registering a litter unless the stud dog owner signs off. It is you that is incorrect and yes, I do know who to collect and ship out semen and am aware that DNA testing needs to be done on stud that have produced three litters in one year or seven in their lifetime.


If your going to write up a contract it's imperative that you know the rules, obviously you do not!!!

AKC Procedures for Registration Matters, page 8.

Here is a link: http://images.akc.org/pdf/rulebooks/RREGS2.pdf

Here is the text:

"The American Kennel Club takes the position that the owner of the sire is required to sign an application to register a litter certifying only to the fact that a particular dam was bred to the sire identified on the Litter Registration Application form on a specified date of mating, unless there is an agreement signed by all parties concerned in which it is specifically set forth that the owner of the sire is not obligated to sign an American Kennel Club Litter Registration Application form until such time as the stud fee has been paid."

If you can't comprehend what's printed in the rulebook get help in doing so or lay off the sauce. Stop putting fear in stud dog owners, they do have recourse if a breeder doesn't pay up. If you don't have a contract that covers your concerns, well that's your fault.


Re: Price for a stud fee?

Not a well know stud but have one. And $1,000 for 45 mins. is an insane statement. That just shows how very little some think of this wonderful breed. Just a dog. Not all the work from birth ! They will buy one and have it standing in their back yard for use. Never pay a real stud fee. It does not cost them much for 15 mins. of use. Bet they are nice too. NOT ! $$$$$

Re: Price for a stud fee?

Breeder w/stud
Not a well know stud but have one. And $1,000 for 45 mins. is an insane statement. That just shows how very little some think of this wonderful breed. Just a dog. Not all the work from birth ! They will buy one and have it standing in their back yard for use. Never pay a real stud fee. It does not cost them much for 15 mins. of use. Bet they are nice too. NOT ! $$$$$
Can you pls elaborate. I don't understand your point at all. It doesn't make any sense.