I charge $900.00 stud fee for my boys. This is the same for all of them. Whether they are the new kid on the block just having their first litters or the boy that has proven offspring winning in the ring. Like another mentioned, if I know someone or have worked with them before I offer the service fee. If I don't know them, I like to get the full fee upfront.
I might agree to the service fee if no litter is produced. The way I would agree is if the total fee was paid upfront and a portion returned if no litter was produced.
Seems fair to me.
So I am reading all of this and it is sad to see such overal mistrust in the Labrador Community. When I stood a dog at Stud, I never had a problem with follow through on the Bitch owners' part. Of course he was never up for "Public Stud". I approved the bitch and the owners prior to agreeing to the breeding. If I did not "feel" this breeding was in the best interest of my boy or the breed I declined the request. If I didn't feel right about the Bitch owner I declined their request. I charged a small service fee up front for my time and care while the Bitch was at my home or if I traveled to the bitch for an AI(which I almost prefered). But when I did ship semen on the few occasions I did not charge a stud fee till puppies were produced. Heck it didn't take much effort to collect, extend, and prep the package for shipment. As far as I was concerned a Stud Fee was qualified only once puppies were produced. I guaranteed 3 live pups. 1 for you, 1 to cover your expense, and lastly 1 to cover the stud fee.
Maybe because I was a bitch owner first and my dogs are my pets first I wasn't caught up on the $$$. Sometimes the Stud fees came in fast an other time when a bitch owner had a Financial hardship it trickled in through a payment plan. In the end the money I spent on my boy for his clearances shows etc. were my choice and if I never made it back it was already money well spent. It was an honor when a breeder chose my boy to sire their litter.
I charge a $200 fee up front which does not include shipping or boxes but does include 2 collections by a repro vet (not me) experienced in collections. It also includes semen analysis prior to shipment and a 2nd analysis of some of the extended semen the next day to compare to the semen that arrived at the shipping destination. Once 2 live puppies are born, an additional $800 is due.
I will not allow my boys to be bred to bitches that do not meet my minimum requirements or who have owners I am unsure of. This may not always work but it has so far.
As far as what a dog produces is concerned, as a bitch owner, yes, I would pay more for a dog that has truly produced well with a number of different pedigrees, but the offspring are the result of both parents, whether they are all pet quality or fabulous. The stud dog deserves neither all of the blame NOR all of the credit for the offspring. It is up to the bitch owner to know how to put together a breeding and for a stud dog owner to honestly answer any questions they may have.
Thank you 'me too' as you're absolutely correct!
This person can't be an ethical breeder if she's a breeder at all. Maybe a BYB? First sign was she's Not sure if AKC requires DNA for a stud dog.
I don't own any boys, all bitches and I recall the DNA rule by the 3rd breeding many years ago. At least 15 years back if not longer.Friends of mine who owned a stud dog or multiple boys were busy sending in DNA for their boys that would be used to sire litters if they hadn't already.
So Another breeder, learn the AKC rules or don't quote them.
Know you think you know it all but you don't.
It's right in the rule book and I have known other breeders who had to do it because of stud dog owner who thought she could get someone back for a personal vendetta by refusing to sign off on a litter.
Nope. If stud dog owner doesn't do it, akc will. Rest assured.
Also know of an unethical bitch owner who thought she didn't need to pay. Well she got her litter registered too.
Look it up.
Akc will not withhold registration unless there is a question on parentage and then only DNA is required to prove it.
This is specifically directed at ME TOO. Your are incorrect in your rather impolite post about what the AKC will or will not do with regard to registering a litter. Yes, they will register a litter, regardless if the stud fee has been paid or not. Outstanding monetary disputes are not their business and they will tell you this up front. They want litters to be registered so please don't continue to post this erroneous information about AKC not registering a litter unless the stud dog owner signs off. It is you that is incorrect and yes, I do know who to collect and ship out semen and am aware that DNA testing needs to be done on stud that have produced three litters in one year or seven in their lifetime.
this is directed at the post,
"1000.00 for 45 min of work "
then keep your own stud dogs and use them, there is alot more that goes into housing a "stud dog" promoting him , having him out and seen .
it is alot of work behind the scenes, having had a well used male years ago , and ive got to the point , i keep for my use only .
Sure thing I think that any stud dog owner would jump on shipping to get a $1,000.00 for 45 minutes of work. Not so much kindness as it is for profit.
You are just bound and determined to make this into a bad thing.
I am sorry that you cup is half empty, mine is half full! I cant wait for my beautiful puppies!
45 minutes of work? I think not. Showing, finishing, expenses, food, time and alot more.
The breeder who got that chilled semen collected & shipped that quickly did not do it just for a stud fee. She did it to give the bitch owner every chance to have a litter in my humble opinion. That was what some use to call a Chinese fire drill in jest. (no Asian pokes of fun!). It means to rush around or have all switch seats in a vehicle and it's a joking term but no fun for the stud dog owner. They stop their own lives to get that shipment out. Just because some breeders brag about how fast they can collect their many boys doesn't mean most can't do the same. I've watched probably over 50 collections and never saw one take long esp with a teaser bitch around but not necessary with a seasoned stud dog.
Kudos to that stud dog owner, not all would do the same regardless of the green coming in. I would be happy to work with her.
Btw, Ever think the stud fee was already there being day 8 ?.
Not a well know stud but have one. And $1,000 for 45 mins. is an insane statement. That just shows how very little some think of this wonderful breed. Just a dog. Not all the work from birth ! They will buy one and have it standing in their back yard for use. Never pay a real stud fee. It does not cost them much for 15 mins. of use. Bet they are nice too. NOT ! $$$$$