Thank you

I also unfortunately produced a TVD puppy who sadly passed before he was 4 months old. Needless to say I want to try to avoid going through this again if at all possible. I would like to have any info that is out there that anyone is willing to share to help me make better breeding decisions in the future. TIA

I also produced a TVD puppy. He lived until he was 6. Thank you for offering to share this knowledge. Me too--something I never want to go through again.

Please send me your information, too, please. I have a friend who lost a lovely youngster to TVD and I want to avoid having to go through that heartbreak if I possibly can. Thank you for being honest.

Me too please

"I contacted the breeder I bought her from and they were awesome to work through this with. I also contacted the stud dog owner and got absolutely nothing from her. If you gave me an email addy I would send you the names that I have been told to watch out for. The list that I have is relatively short, but can be built on while looking into your pedigrees."

I would be interested in knowing your girl's pedigree. I have a TVD dog, and have been collecting pedigrees of other dogs with TVD ever since getting her. I am willing to share my dog's pedigree. My email address is below.

while it looks like a dominate with incomplete penetrance disease, which means that it only takes one and while it also seems like that a dog can carry the disease and still have a clear echo, isn't it time that we do something, before it ruins our breed? maybe it is time to have a registry for this. We're going to get deeper and deeper into this disease if we don't do something soon.........makes our other diseases look fairly lame.........what a shame it is. it wasn't too long ago that there only seemed to be one dog out there who had it and produced it.......those of us who continue to breed dogs who produce this multiple times should hand their heads..........

I would appreciate an email too. Thanks for sharing your info.

I just came across this and would also like this information if possible. Thanks. The cloak-and-dagger nature of the breeding world is so depressing.

I would be grateful if you would also email me the short line you have. You are doing the labrador world a great service.

I would appreciate an email too. Thank you for your honesty and for sharing.

Please, send me the information. Has anyone received anything?

I asked and first they wanted names I could provide. I did not respond to that

No one ever gives out names. Maybe an anonymous pedigree would be better, post a pedigree with the dog's name blackened out, or if you must, leave out the sire and dam too. Not sharing information is not helping, anyone, yet the problems are getting more numerous. We know you can't be certain where it came from but can't we have a look at the pedigrees? The OP wants names and they won't open up either. , ridiculous.

Controlling TVD in Labradors
TVD is an inherited condition, making good breeding decisions is crucial in the fight to reduce the prevalence of TVD in Labrador Retrievers. Dogs that are affected should not be used for breeding. Future breedings of their sire and dam to each other also should not be repeated. Unfortunately, clinical signs of TVD often do not appear until after an afflicted dog is of breeding age, so owners may unknowingly breed a dog bearing the genetic marker for TVD.
The best way to avoid this is to have any Labrador that is being considered for breeding purposes screened for the condition by ultrasound (echocardiogram) performed by a veterinary cardiologist. Other ways to help reduce the incidence within the Labrador breed are by communicating with new owners about the condition and alerting owners of sires and dams and littermates of dogs who are identified with TVD, as well as those who are researching heart condition in canines

Per the LRC website, the bottom line in helping to control TVD:
Communication and echocardiogram

Please share the information with me. I've been lucky enough so far and I want to keep it like that. Thank you so much for sharing.

I would love a copy of your list, too!

I too would be interested in any list. An informed choice is always better than an uninformed one. Thank you.

I would love to please receive any notice of pedigrees containing TVD as well.

I have some names to share too with you newbie if you'd share yours. Or anyone else that has a TVD dog that emails I'll share what I know. I agree that there is no way we are going to get anywhere if we all keep quiet.

One thought is that there is already a registry that allows lists of an affected, such as one that you bred, at no charge: the OFA cardiac listing. I just looked and there are only NINE Labs that come up on a search as having been affected by an abnormal heart of any kind, and only 0.3 percent are listed in the statistics, which should include any dogs whose results are to be secret except to the researchers. Some had pedigrees I had been told to avoid, no matter how much I like their get, but others were a surprise. One was a field line, which pretty much negates the thought that cardiac issues are only in show lines .Labs are Labs. We can start by owning up to our own issues and allowing release of abnormal results with our initials. I am not ready to advocate broadcasting other people's news: that can be full of false rumors and meanness. I also realize that congenital defects can be one offs, not TVD, but it is a start. At least submit for statistical purposes, so the cardiologists know, even if you do not allow release on the database to the general public! OFA states that,
"Affected Animals, Statistical Data Submission and Resubmissions at No Charge"

FWIW.

I am very frustrated by people thinking they are safe using echo clear dogs.
There are many stud dogs out there producing TVD. Their owners know this and continue to place them at stud. These stud dogs have produced MULTIPLE puppies with different bitches and bloodlines but they are popular and make their owners big money. . One I know carries an echo clear status but after research, he and his sire have produced over 8 tvd puppies by various bitch lines.
Being "echo clear" MEANS NOTHING!!!!
By echoing we only weed out the affected.

Actually, being ECHO clear means the dog is not affected, which does mean SOMETHING. There are many heritable issues for which we do not have a definitive test to know whether or not the offspring will be affected. It is no different than being ACVO Clear for eyes - a clear dog can still produce cataracts. A dog that has never seizured can still produce seizures. A dog with OFA Excellent hips can still produce hip dysplasia. But the odds are lower than if the dog is affected or if there are affected dogs throughout the pedigree. A "clearance" is merely a piece of information; it is not a license to breed. We try to make the best decisions we can given the information we have available. I would be far more concerned about a litter bred out of dogs on prelims/no clearances (giving none of the heritable issues that often start to appear around age 2 time to present) than one bred out of "cleared" parents where there is solid familial history.

The more echoes done, the better the chance of this disease not hitting breeders over the head. I am working on doing 4th generation echoes on my bitch line which makes me and the stud dog owners more comfortable. Current stud i used is 3rd generation echoe clear. The chances becom slimmer the more generations cleared by ecoes, not auscultation as a wise woman told me in the middle 2000's

We each do what we want and live with the consequences.

Please e-mail me the TVD list. I'll be grateful for ever.

May I also get a copy of the list.
I am getting ready to breed my first litter and I am trying to make the best decision I can make for her future.
She finished her championship quite easily. Thankfully, she has passed all known clearances, echo included.

I would be interested in the list. Thank you for helping us all.

I'd appreciate it if I could get a copy also.

Could you please send me the list too?

I would never forgive myself if I am not diligent enough doing my research.

Thanks a lot!

Thank you!

Few breeders of affected dogs will probably volunteer this info, but I will take a look.

I received at least half a dozen emails asking about the "list", I don't know whether some people thought I was the OP, or the list maker, or who they thought I was, but I only ever offered to share my affected girl's pedigree.

Don't know why people think it can be boiled down to a list.

(not intended for any one person)
I completely understand the magnitude of TVD being a real problem in this breed but like others have stated all we have to go by are assumptions. The fact is without a test all we are doing "guessing" and causing hysteria. Look at how many people have asked for a list in this thread. A list based on no real fact. I understand that pedigree research is a major part of trying to understand this but again we have no real facts to base our fears on.

My question is how much money is needed for funding research? What is the direction and progression for current research? And what else is there that we can do to help find the facts we are looking for? As far as funding I'm not sure why collectively we in the breed aren't donating? Myself included. Anyone have a link to help clear up some of my questions.